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Ted Leslie's avatar

Keith, This is disturbing on many levels. USCCA not stepping up. I will be dropping USCCA immediately. Police ignoring FOIA. This is really concerning. I have never heard that pepper spray was considered deadly force. "Pepper spray was not an option, and this was clearly not a deadly force situation." I always considered OC spray less lethal and first form of defense since it can be deployed at distance. Is this an Idaho statute? I live in Texas and service my local church body in Austin. Please help us understand.

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James Mecham's avatar

Hello Ted,

Keith was saying that the only reasonable force option left was physical. He basically explained neither Pepper Spray nor deadly force were viable.

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Ted Leslie's avatar

I missed it. Why is pepper spray not viable?

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James Mecham's avatar

It's a good question. Proximity, wind, others present and close to the Threat would eliminate pepper as an option. If the security team hasn't trained together for pepper they may be affected. We used the term Disengage to signal deployment of non-lethal force and prevent allies being hit.

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James Mecham's avatar

I forgot to mention time, they probably didn't have time to draw and create distance to deploy OC.

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