Stop being a pasifist soft target. Lock the doors with inside push bar exits. Start a security force of those armed with lethal weapons, and those armed with less lethal weapons I.E. impact and chemical weapons. Do not hesitate to forcefully oppose those entering to disrupt your service. They are jackals who only respect force. If they infiltrate quietly, have a cadre ready to physically escort them out, using the least amount of force necessary. No matter how you respond, they WILL SUE YOU. They think churches have deep pockets, and more importantly to them, you are interfering with their cosplaying "social justice warrior" fun. They rule by intimidation and threats of violence, but when confronted with a united force willing to use equal violence, they melt away.
I wonder that too. A lot of churches have ignorant people leading them on this. I wonder if many of them thought they were protected because their pastor is a law enforcement officer?
Churches need to learn these things in a hurry. Hopefully not from an incident at their own.
By taking place during a worship service, such protests attempt to assert their own authority over and in place of the authority of Christ. Philosophically is is the same as if a practitioner of another religion tried to hijack the service by loudly praying to their god during the church's worship. This cannot be tolerated; Jesus is Lord.
Question for pastors and staff: Who do they want to meet arriving protestors? When protestors arrived at our previous church in another state, they were met by the senior pastor carrying coffee and donuts for them. Within an hour, they were gone and never returned, so whatever he said seemed to work.
Similarly, when First Amendment auditors arrived at our current church, they were met by our pastor in charge of ushers and greeters, and again they soon left happy, with that encounter still posted on their web site as an example of a church meeting their challenge well.
I believe this threat assessment is extremely valid even in areas that are not sanctuary states. We had a protest here in Mansfield Ohio after the incident in Minnesota. Rural communities are at high risk because of the extreme vulnerability of "rural" areas and the misguided thought that, It won't happen here.
There is not a protection of the right to “protest” in the first amendment. What it says…Congress shall make no law…abridging the…right of the people to peaceably assemble or petition the government for a redress of grievances. We need to get our electeds and media to start using this language. We need to use this language.
If I need hearing protection, eye protection, can’t walk through the crowd without being harassed, am block access to thoroughfare, am being hit by objects…it is not a peaceful assembly. They should be cleared by law enforcement.
Yes, I am the security at my Church, a USMC combat vet and Civil Intelligence Investigator of 28 yrs. Your advice is correct. We installed push bars and I lock all entry doors at the beginning of services.
I lectured on these developments for 20+ yrs. Very few people took our efforts seriously. Our nation is in moral decline and violence will become more normalized.
Our LE here in WA state isn’t to be relied upon. Our pastor understands this. WA state is a NW breeding ground for Islamic and anti-American as well as anti-Christian activity.
Your right about passive mentality. It’s a sin!
Tolerance has led our nation to near destruction and love isn’t allowing evil to take root in our society. Americans generally have fallen to pacification campaigns.
A church has two choices. Allow a disruption of a planned church service or not allow it. Whether it is a single person acting out or a group of protesters. They need to be told clearly they are not welcome to disrupt a church service, told they are trespassing and be told to leave, or the police will be called. If they refuse to leave the police can contact them upon their arrival.
The decision to take any physical action, guiding by the arm up to and including any force depends upon the need to use force. If it’s unnecessary don’t but if the trespassers leave you no choice be prepared to protect yourself and the flock.
Every church security team should take hand to hand combat training. I teach this. It can save you from having to kill somebody in your church, which never turns out well for the ministry.
Stopping an aggressor isn’t that difficult if you don’t hesitate and act decisively.
Thank you for this risk assessment. Today another church had protesters. Bethlehem college and seminary had protesters 12noon today. There were not as many as they expected because of how cold it was. I am going to share this video with my Senior Pastor.
Has it been determined for sure how they entered the church? Slowly one by one or in mass? If it was in mass then they got a free ticket if it was individually thats hard spot.
In the words of "dalton", ask them to leave, if they wont leave escort them. Be nice. I'll let you know when it's time to not be nice. This will not be tolerated and the libtards now believe that inaction is fear. They must be denied this narrative. In soviet Russia this was the first thing they did, the next step will be the assassination of clergy in the most horrific ways. This next step must be stopped immediately and swiftly and examples made. The government entered the church that day. Keep that in mind. The government. Men, Grab you pair and hold them close.
Many of our people, who have never considered the need for dealing with trespassers in a religious setting, find situations like this to be outside their mental framework. However, our most common disturbance is from people who have theological views which the church disagrees with, who believe that they have the right to push these views on someone else's platform.
We have to remember that whoever financed the meeting has the authority to select the message that will be presented. Who bought the land? Who paid the rent? Who paid the insurance? Who invited the public? What was their intention for the investment to be used for?
If we have other views, we may attempt to persuade the venue organizers of our opinions, but we cannot compel them to agree with us. If they ask us to leave, we must finance our own venue.
Stop being a pasifist soft target. Lock the doors with inside push bar exits. Start a security force of those armed with lethal weapons, and those armed with less lethal weapons I.E. impact and chemical weapons. Do not hesitate to forcefully oppose those entering to disrupt your service. They are jackals who only respect force. If they infiltrate quietly, have a cadre ready to physically escort them out, using the least amount of force necessary. No matter how you respond, they WILL SUE YOU. They think churches have deep pockets, and more importantly to them, you are interfering with their cosplaying "social justice warrior" fun. They rule by intimidation and threats of violence, but when confronted with a united force willing to use equal violence, they melt away.
Yes, less lethal.
Sharpen the pepper spray devices.
My first question is, where’s the security/safety team?
I wonder that too. A lot of churches have ignorant people leading them on this. I wonder if many of them thought they were protected because their pastor is a law enforcement officer?
Churches need to learn these things in a hurry. Hopefully not from an incident at their own.
By taking place during a worship service, such protests attempt to assert their own authority over and in place of the authority of Christ. Philosophically is is the same as if a practitioner of another religion tried to hijack the service by loudly praying to their god during the church's worship. This cannot be tolerated; Jesus is Lord.
Question for pastors and staff: Who do they want to meet arriving protestors? When protestors arrived at our previous church in another state, they were met by the senior pastor carrying coffee and donuts for them. Within an hour, they were gone and never returned, so whatever he said seemed to work.
Similarly, when First Amendment auditors arrived at our current church, they were met by our pastor in charge of ushers and greeters, and again they soon left happy, with that encounter still posted on their web site as an example of a church meeting their challenge well.
I believe this threat assessment is extremely valid even in areas that are not sanctuary states. We had a protest here in Mansfield Ohio after the incident in Minnesota. Rural communities are at high risk because of the extreme vulnerability of "rural" areas and the misguided thought that, It won't happen here.
Amen! Less lethal.
There is not a protection of the right to “protest” in the first amendment. What it says…Congress shall make no law…abridging the…right of the people to peaceably assemble or petition the government for a redress of grievances. We need to get our electeds and media to start using this language. We need to use this language.
If I need hearing protection, eye protection, can’t walk through the crowd without being harassed, am block access to thoroughfare, am being hit by objects…it is not a peaceful assembly. They should be cleared by law enforcement.
Yes, I am the security at my Church, a USMC combat vet and Civil Intelligence Investigator of 28 yrs. Your advice is correct. We installed push bars and I lock all entry doors at the beginning of services.
I lectured on these developments for 20+ yrs. Very few people took our efforts seriously. Our nation is in moral decline and violence will become more normalized.
Our LE here in WA state isn’t to be relied upon. Our pastor understands this. WA state is a NW breeding ground for Islamic and anti-American as well as anti-Christian activity.
Your right about passive mentality. It’s a sin!
Tolerance has led our nation to near destruction and love isn’t allowing evil to take root in our society. Americans generally have fallen to pacification campaigns.
A church has two choices. Allow a disruption of a planned church service or not allow it. Whether it is a single person acting out or a group of protesters. They need to be told clearly they are not welcome to disrupt a church service, told they are trespassing and be told to leave, or the police will be called. If they refuse to leave the police can contact them upon their arrival.
The decision to take any physical action, guiding by the arm up to and including any force depends upon the need to use force. If it’s unnecessary don’t but if the trespassers leave you no choice be prepared to protect yourself and the flock.
Every church security team should take hand to hand combat training. I teach this. It can save you from having to kill somebody in your church, which never turns out well for the ministry.
Stopping an aggressor isn’t that difficult if you don’t hesitate and act decisively.
I believe the Lord will honor righteous actions.
You might not agree with the person but leave a church religious entity alone ! Let GOD SORT THEM OUT! They are in his house !
Is there a way to print this for our teams?
Thank you for this risk assessment. Today another church had protesters. Bethlehem college and seminary had protesters 12noon today. There were not as many as they expected because of how cold it was. I am going to share this video with my Senior Pastor.
Has it been determined for sure how they entered the church? Slowly one by one or in mass? If it was in mass then they got a free ticket if it was individually thats hard spot.
In the words of "dalton", ask them to leave, if they wont leave escort them. Be nice. I'll let you know when it's time to not be nice. This will not be tolerated and the libtards now believe that inaction is fear. They must be denied this narrative. In soviet Russia this was the first thing they did, the next step will be the assassination of clergy in the most horrific ways. This next step must be stopped immediately and swiftly and examples made. The government entered the church that day. Keep that in mind. The government. Men, Grab you pair and hold them close.
Simper Fi
This is unacceptable. Under no circumstances do I have to nor will I tolerate an invasion into my house of worship.
The wise are always prepared in advance for such things.
Many of our people, who have never considered the need for dealing with trespassers in a religious setting, find situations like this to be outside their mental framework. However, our most common disturbance is from people who have theological views which the church disagrees with, who believe that they have the right to push these views on someone else's platform.
We have to remember that whoever financed the meeting has the authority to select the message that will be presented. Who bought the land? Who paid the rent? Who paid the insurance? Who invited the public? What was their intention for the investment to be used for?
If we have other views, we may attempt to persuade the venue organizers of our opinions, but we cannot compel them to agree with us. If they ask us to leave, we must finance our own venue.