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Travis Tibbs's avatar

Thank you so much Keith. God bless you for this ministry. I know it wears on you and I pray that God strengthens you and restores you. Praying for you, law enforcement, the injured (physically/emotionally/spiritually), and the families of all involved. My church and I benefit from your ministry, especially as the threats (that you told us to expect) continue to manifest faster and faster. I pray that no church is a soft target, but we'll do what God allows at ours.

Wayne Hoffman's avatar

Praying for those involved in this.

john's avatar

Society of victims..where were armed citizens....such a sad day lord Jesus be with the families

Steve Shelp's avatar

Give Pepper an ear scratching from NC. She has been in our prayers per your previous video on her issues. I know a trauma room anesthesiologist in Greenville, NC. He is a gun guy and shoots IDPA matches etc. He has kept track of stats through his hospital for i think a 10 yr period. 93% of people who come into the his ER with a gun shot from a handgun walk out of the hospital. He said you can just about invert those numbers if a rifle is used. He had zero stats for shootings involving shotguns. Our guess was that they never made it the the ER and went straight to the coroner.

prayers for all christians!

in HIS service,

Steve

Brian Harrison's avatar

My business partner and I wish we could attend the Couer D’Alene event. We wish we could get you over to Eastern Idaho, but the churches, in general, over here think something like this will never happen or they’ve got enough people with guns for it not to be a problem.

Keith Graves's avatar

For the ones that think they have enough people with guns, watch the interview I did with this pastor. That was his church's plan and at least 20 people were killed in his church. https://www.christianwarriortraining.com/p/itll-never-happen-here?utm_source=publication-search

Scott brusse's avatar

Keith thank you for what you do I work church security in lake Oswego, Oregon we have VBS this week and all the guys love your work and ministry

James Adams's avatar

Thank you Kieth . Praying for the Kentucky church.

Roger Macon's avatar

Our news agency here in Birmingham has reported that according to Lexington police chief Lawrence Weathers, two women have died as a result of their injuries there at the church. WVTM, channel13 in Birmingham AL.

Douglas Gene Haymore's avatar

The bad guys are coming out of the woodwork.

Mollie Wolf's avatar

Several of us have talked to our church leadership again and again. There is this wall that goes up when we continue to share the news with them and ask them to please send members to church security trainings.

What is the deal? The church is very Biblically sound and very Christ following.

I don't get it. Anyone else having this problem of being shunned?

Keith Graves's avatar

I have that issue and so does every other church. You aren't alone. Keep fighting the good fight. That's all you can do.

Donald S Thomas's avatar

Yes, my church also has this posture at a certain level. My superior a 30 retired officer laments over the laxidaisy attitutude. I believe many of our churches in the West, since they haven't suffered persecution like other church's around the world on a consistent basis have a false sense of these issues/circumstances. Unfortunately some may not take it at a more serious level until something happens close to home.

Mollie Wolf's avatar

Update from July 13. I continued to ask questions to Deacons (since they seem to be the policy makers). I had written a letter to the deacons over a year before and was treated like, " move on lady,we have it under control". When new Deacons came in I would question them if they thought the safety at the church needed a more hands on approach. Then I asked if they ever were shown my letter. Of course they said no, so I then asked them if they would like a copy. Finally, a retired school superintendent was made a Deacon and he was appalled at the lack of planning and 100% was ready to do something. So, "little lady" ( who had been 2nd in command at a medium sized Baptist Church before I came to this one), was drafted by a small number of deacons who did agree, to be on the committee to set up a SAFETY team. Conceal carry is highly frowned upon. Well, at least we have a start and with God's guidance and Keith's continued information updates we may actually get somewhere.

Never give up, keep praying.

Eric's avatar

Thank you Kieth for all the effort you do to keep us up to date on things around the country. Things are starting to happen closer to home. Ohio, Kentucky, I am the security director at a small country church in Indiana. Thank you for all you do. I pray that you are recovering from your medical problems.

Eric Guyer

:Stuart-james.'s avatar

Does this church support the legal fiction state that calls itself Israel?

For if it does, that is the reason for your problem.

Christians don’t support the act of murder. Perpetrated by these Jews.

John Doe's avatar

For point #3 in the video, do you have a low-vis radio recommendation for security teams?

Keith Graves's avatar

There are so many options. I don't have any specific, though. Also, check out Tango Tango. They are church friendly and have a great product.

John Doe's avatar

Thanks, that looks like a pretty good option!

Matthew Sprecher's avatar

Richmond rd Baptist is 3.3 miles from my church on Armstrong mill. I serve on my churches safety and security team. Just wonder Keith, what I can do to better prepare my team and whole congregation for these types of situations?

Keith Graves's avatar

Watch the video and do the 10 things I outline. The other thing is to train, train, train and then train some more. If you know anyone at that church, I'd love to debrief them so other churches can learn from this. I don't want to reach out with everything going on. But if you have friends there, we can all learn from it.

Matthew Sprecher's avatar

I will watch and take notes! Is there any specifics you recommend on training? I appreciate you reaching back out. I will reach out in due time to them and check to see if anyone I know goes there. Our biggest problem at my church is the main campus/congregation doesn’t want anyone one team to conceal carry. What can I do to change they’re minds or at least open they’re minds to the option. (Our team members conceal anyway) but more so to be on paper I guess. Apologies on all the questions…when I found out close it was to my church, my heart just sunk and my mind started to jump everywhere like what if it had been my church congregation? Would I have been fully prepared? Things like that.

William R Krecker's avatar

Why this church? Did he have some connection to this church?

Keith Graves's avatar

It sounds like he may have a connection

William R Krecker's avatar

Thanks! πŸ™πŸ»