Keith! You literally warned us about this! Honestly, I can think of 2, maybe 3 times. And I think there was more. Stay on it brother! Your insight is much appreciated!
Who are the ungodly ones!? I think it’s the ones who don’t follow the teachings of Jesus. You anti Christian, bigoted, assholes who claim to be Christian but don’t understand the scripture that says welcome the stranger, love thy neighbor, and have cognitive dissonance regarding the story of the Good Samaritan. The Bible tells you how to act. You should practice what you preach. You people really suck.
I am only able to listen at the moment, but could you cover the federal laws protecting church services from disruption. I'm sure state laws vary or strengthen federal law.
I know Pastor Hibbs proceeds potential controversial programs with a reminder of laws in case intruders are already in the congregation. Would this be required to enforce such laws?
This would suggest a couple of things, because this event could easily have gone lethal. First, somebody in an elevated position with a rifle. Second, an inventory of pepper ball guns to help chase these people out. Sad, because it doesn't look like the local PD showed up to help (we don't know if they were ever called, but assuming that someone did). Never thought this would be necessary for a house of workship.
Thanks for sharing this and giving us good advice on how to handle. We do have a safety team and it is improving and growing and I will share your thoughts with them all. I appreciate all that our comments from everyone in here as well!
Keith, so as a retired law enforcement officer, how show I handle a crowd attempting to gain entry into my church and they're becoming violent? where in this equation does defending ourself comes in?
After calling 911 and the police still are not there, I have found that pepper spray works wonders. Going hands-on will not be very effective. Watch ice as they use pepper spray on protesters. It is super effective. You’re just gonna need a very large can.
True it works, however you can't just start spraying you need to do that in a structured manner as the bad guys aren't just standing together in a group. What happens when your spray is stripped from you. See . You should get solid training.
Today's news of the activation 1,500 Army 11th Airborne Mountain/Arctic troops to deploy under the Insurrection Act could change the dynamics, also. If Minnesota wants to start a civil war, I guess they have the opportunity. Hoping they keep it to themselves.
In this instance, the protesters apparently claimed a First Amendment right to protest inside the church. My understanding is that they CAN legally protest on a public sidewalk outside the church property, but once they enter church property and have officially been asked to leave, they are trespassing, and can be arrested.
Sometimes such trouble can be headed off with cheerful discussion, as one of our pastors did when our church was visited by First Amendment auditors.
Right now im the only person on our small churches what i want to call The Watchmen group (*security team). I am a little knowledgeable on how to do security but would love to learn so much more. Do you have training? And if you dl where can I find the training? Love your show. Keep up the great work Brother 👍
Keith! You literally warned us about this! Honestly, I can think of 2, maybe 3 times. And I think there was more. Stay on it brother! Your insight is much appreciated!
The only thing I can think of is lock down the church and call 911.
Who are the ungodly ones!? I think it’s the ones who don’t follow the teachings of Jesus. You anti Christian, bigoted, assholes who claim to be Christian but don’t understand the scripture that says welcome the stranger, love thy neighbor, and have cognitive dissonance regarding the story of the Good Samaritan. The Bible tells you how to act. You should practice what you preach. You people really suck.
this is so wrong on so many levels
Also thanks Keith's daughter for helping put all these things together, we appreciate you.
Thank you, Keith. It helps to know what's going on. Keeping up with things.
I am only able to listen at the moment, but could you cover the federal laws protecting church services from disruption. I'm sure state laws vary or strengthen federal law.
I know Pastor Hibbs proceeds potential controversial programs with a reminder of laws in case intruders are already in the congregation. Would this be required to enforce such laws?
Pastor Jack Hibbs on church invasion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDWnXIN9j3A
This would suggest a couple of things, because this event could easily have gone lethal. First, somebody in an elevated position with a rifle. Second, an inventory of pepper ball guns to help chase these people out. Sad, because it doesn't look like the local PD showed up to help (we don't know if they were ever called, but assuming that someone did). Never thought this would be necessary for a house of workship.
Thanks for sharing this and giving us good advice on how to handle. We do have a safety team and it is improving and growing and I will share your thoughts with them all. I appreciate all that our comments from everyone in here as well!
Keith, so as a retired law enforcement officer, how show I handle a crowd attempting to gain entry into my church and they're becoming violent? where in this equation does defending ourself comes in?
After calling 911 and the police still are not there, I have found that pepper spray works wonders. Going hands-on will not be very effective. Watch ice as they use pepper spray on protesters. It is super effective. You’re just gonna need a very large can.
Ok, thank Keith. Can you provide a manufacturer that you would recommend for personal purchase? thanks buddy.
Check out POM
copy that! thanks
True it works, however you can't just start spraying you need to do that in a structured manner as the bad guys aren't just standing together in a group. What happens when your spray is stripped from you. See . You should get solid training.
amazing how all this started with the orange turd sounds like we're back in the '50s and '60s into anyone that thinks that this is all right
TDS
could you please explain the FACE act?
Today's news of the activation 1,500 Army 11th Airborne Mountain/Arctic troops to deploy under the Insurrection Act could change the dynamics, also. If Minnesota wants to start a civil war, I guess they have the opportunity. Hoping they keep it to themselves.
In this instance, the protesters apparently claimed a First Amendment right to protest inside the church. My understanding is that they CAN legally protest on a public sidewalk outside the church property, but once they enter church property and have officially been asked to leave, they are trespassing, and can be arrested.
Sometimes such trouble can be headed off with cheerful discussion, as one of our pastors did when our church was visited by First Amendment auditors.
Right now im the only person on our small churches what i want to call The Watchmen group (*security team). I am a little knowledgeable on how to do security but would love to learn so much more. Do you have training? And if you dl where can I find the training? Love your show. Keep up the great work Brother 👍
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