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Kristi Noem’s Goat's avatar

Who are the ungodly ones!? I think it’s the ones who don’t follow the teachings of Jesus. You anti Christian, bigoted, assholes who claim to be Christian but don’t understand the scripture that says welcome the stranger, love thy neighbor, and have cognitive dissonance regarding the story of the Good Samaritan. The Bible tells you how to act. You should practice what you preach. You people really suck.

Lucas's avatar

Keith! You literally warned us about this! Honestly, I can think of 2, maybe 3 times. And I think there was more. Stay on it brother! Your insight is much appreciated!

Lyndon Scott Fluegel's avatar

The only thing I can think of is lock down the church and call 911.

O.B Fan Boy's avatar

this is so wrong on so many levels

Brian's avatar

Also thanks Keith's daughter for helping put all these things together, we appreciate you.

Elizabeth's avatar

Xtian nationalists really have nothing to do with any religions anyway

nelson torres's avatar

amazing how all this started with the orange turd sounds like we're back in the '50s and '60s into anyone that thinks that this is all right

DeSings's avatar

Thank you, Keith. It helps to know what's going on. Keeping up with things.

S.P.H.'s avatar

I am only able to listen at the moment, but could you cover the federal laws protecting church services from disruption. I'm sure state laws vary or strengthen federal law.

I know Pastor Hibbs proceeds potential controversial programs with a reminder of laws in case intruders are already in the congregation. Would this be required to enforce such laws?

Elizabeth's avatar

Xtian nationalists really have nothing to do with any religions anyway

Kristi Noem’s Goat's avatar

“Always be caring.” Irony is dead.

Skip Kirkwood's avatar

This would suggest a couple of things, because this event could easily have gone lethal. First, somebody in an elevated position with a rifle. Second, an inventory of pepper ball guns to help chase these people out. Sad, because it doesn't look like the local PD showed up to help (we don't know if they were ever called, but assuming that someone did). Never thought this would be necessary for a house of workship.

David Millsaps's avatar

Thanks for sharing this and giving us good advice on how to handle. We do have a safety team and it is improving and growing and I will share your thoughts with them all. I appreciate all that our comments from everyone in here as well!

mechanic350's avatar

Keith, so as a retired law enforcement officer, how show I handle a crowd attempting to gain entry into my church and they're becoming violent? where in this equation does defending ourself comes in?

Keith Graves's avatar

After calling 911 and the police still are not there, I have found that pepper spray works wonders. Going hands-on will not be very effective. Watch ice as they use pepper spray on protesters. It is super effective. You’re just gonna need a very large can.

mechanic350's avatar

Ok, thank Keith. Can you provide a manufacturer that you would recommend for personal purchase? thanks buddy.

William Cekosh's avatar

True it works, however you can't just start spraying you need to do that in a structured manner as the bad guys aren't just standing together in a group. What happens when your spray is stripped from you. See . You should get solid training.

John Fleming's avatar

could you please explain the FACE act?