Wow! I had no idea this was going on behind the scenes. I thank the Lord that this group is in place, and pray for similar groups to form around the US, and the rest of the world. Christian and Jewish congregations watching each other's backs - truly, loving our neighbors as ourselves.
WOW! This is insane! I can't believe how disturbed people can be. It just goes to show you we are more susceptible to attacks from within than we are from foreign attackers. This alone has to wake up churches.
Living here in the county where Charlie Kirk's assassin lived, I keep asking our churches so-called shepherds how close evil has to get before they will wake up and acknowledge and expose it. No answer ever.
We have to accept the fact that churches are no longer the body of Christ, but have devolved into corporations, concerned only with sustaining their existence.
I’m still trying to get someone on my team interested in becoming an intel officer. Is there somewhere they can be trained in how and where to search for such things? If I knew of such training, it might encourage a volunteer who is hesitant.
I spoke with the person I believe is best qualified for this task, and he told me the reason he is hesitant is that he hasn’t yet figured out how to best verify the information he finds.
Keith has said he is working on training for this but it's not easy. I dont know when he plans to. There might be some previous articles on substack you can search and there may be info on it there.
Information, organization and application -thank you for excellent leadership. We no longer have the luxury of indifference to what is happening around us every day.
This paragraph is of a personal nature. My wife and I live in a Denver, CO suburb. Due to the political environment now in Colorado, we are entertaining the idea of relocating. Idaho is a state of interest to us. We are planning a trip there to investigate the possibility of moving. A church home is of paramount importance to us. Would you direct us to your church web site so we can schedule a visit to your church? My Internet address is: gratiaalexander9@ gmail.com. Thank you!
Thankyou for the “heads up.” I’ve considered Utah as well. I used to work in Vernal, UT for Baker Hughes Oilfield Operations. There was a church there that I enjoyed attending. I would appreciate your estimation of the “political environment” where you live. If so inclined, would you mind bringing me “up to speed” on your location?
It is my opinion that churches have the greatest guilt of all other institutions in America in the collapse of the country. In my experience, most pastors refuse to be watchmen informing their congregations of the existential threats of paganism, Marxism and Islam. The “Watchman” I’m afraid is asleep.
Indeed the churches so-called "pastors" who are supposed to be shepherds and watchmen, are blind. They are mute dogs that cannot bark. And willfully so.
But why? Is the "Chief Shepherd" (Jesus Christ) not shepherding them? Is the Holy Spirit not convicting them of their negligence? Are they not true Christians? Or is there no Chief Shepherd or Holy Spirit?
It's time we started facing these questions, after 53 years for me - 2/3 of my life.
Or, if you don't like snow, then Southern Utah where we moved from the Denver area. The problem here though is the lack of a church that has any clue to what's going on in the world or even the community.
This is where Charlie Kirk's murderer lived, but no mention of it Sunday morning in the only Bible Church here. It's "Jesus only," in our oblivious church bubble.
How did you get the intelligence network started? We have 13 local churches within 5 miles of each other, but I have had little success trying to get them to cooperate. Our church has hosted safety conferences, first aid classes, tactical trainings, etc. I have sent out personal invitations and emails to every local congregation., but there seems to be no interest. A few do have safety teams, and at least one or two of the churches are borderline hostile toward the whole idea of any kind of security. I have basically given up, and now just focus on our own facilities, and team. Suggestions?
You are doing everything right. If people don’t want to participate, we can’t make them. It is tough to get people to get involved. Keep up what you are doing. Don’t be discouraged.
We have newly retired LEOs that have cultivated relationships with the local department and we see them patrol through the parking lot often. We also have military (current and retired), ATF, and local Fire personnel in the safety ministry who are a wealth of knowledge and input. We are very fortunate to have a good variety of input in this ministry. I’ve been part of it for 8 years now and when it started we didn’t have these resources but have been blessed with them over the last 3 or 4 years.
In a jurisdiction with a George Soros prosecutor, a Democrat mayor, city council, and police chief, they would just laugh at a trespass order, would they not?
I would imagine that the threat to a Boise police officer's children got them moving.
Wow! I had no idea this was going on behind the scenes. I thank the Lord that this group is in place, and pray for similar groups to form around the US, and the rest of the world. Christian and Jewish congregations watching each other's backs - truly, loving our neighbors as ourselves.
WOW! This is insane! I can't believe how disturbed people can be. It just goes to show you we are more susceptible to attacks from within than we are from foreign attackers. This alone has to wake up churches.
Living here in the county where Charlie Kirk's assassin lived, I keep asking our churches so-called shepherds how close evil has to get before they will wake up and acknowledge and expose it. No answer ever.
We have to accept the fact that churches are no longer the body of Christ, but have devolved into corporations, concerned only with sustaining their existence.
Fantastic advice! Some of this we've done but now I have more work to do. Thank you!
I’m still trying to get someone on my team interested in becoming an intel officer. Is there somewhere they can be trained in how and where to search for such things? If I knew of such training, it might encourage a volunteer who is hesitant.
The lesson plan is done, it’s just a matter of getting more time in the day to make it happen.
I spoke with the person I believe is best qualified for this task, and he told me the reason he is hesitant is that he hasn’t yet figured out how to best verify the information he finds.
Keith has said he is working on training for this but it's not easy. I dont know when he plans to. There might be some previous articles on substack you can search and there may be info on it there.
Jon Stockard
Information, organization and application -thank you for excellent leadership. We no longer have the luxury of indifference to what is happening around us every day.
This paragraph is of a personal nature. My wife and I live in a Denver, CO suburb. Due to the political environment now in Colorado, we are entertaining the idea of relocating. Idaho is a state of interest to us. We are planning a trip there to investigate the possibility of moving. A church home is of paramount importance to us. Would you direct us to your church web site so we can schedule a visit to your church? My Internet address is: gratiaalexander9@ gmail.com. Thank you!
Thankyou for the “heads up.” I’ve considered Utah as well. I used to work in Vernal, UT for Baker Hughes Oilfield Operations. There was a church there that I enjoyed attending. I would appreciate your estimation of the “political environment” where you live. If so inclined, would you mind bringing me “up to speed” on your location?
gratiaalexander9@gmail.com
It is my opinion that churches have the greatest guilt of all other institutions in America in the collapse of the country. In my experience, most pastors refuse to be watchmen informing their congregations of the existential threats of paganism, Marxism and Islam. The “Watchman” I’m afraid is asleep.
Blessings to all in Jesus’ name
Indeed the churches so-called "pastors" who are supposed to be shepherds and watchmen, are blind. They are mute dogs that cannot bark. And willfully so.
But why? Is the "Chief Shepherd" (Jesus Christ) not shepherding them? Is the Holy Spirit not convicting them of their negligence? Are they not true Christians? Or is there no Chief Shepherd or Holy Spirit?
It's time we started facing these questions, after 53 years for me - 2/3 of my life.
Or, if you don't like snow, then Southern Utah where we moved from the Denver area. The problem here though is the lack of a church that has any clue to what's going on in the world or even the community.
This is where Charlie Kirk's murderer lived, but no mention of it Sunday morning in the only Bible Church here. It's "Jesus only," in our oblivious church bubble.
How did you get the intelligence network started? We have 13 local churches within 5 miles of each other, but I have had little success trying to get them to cooperate. Our church has hosted safety conferences, first aid classes, tactical trainings, etc. I have sent out personal invitations and emails to every local congregation., but there seems to be no interest. A few do have safety teams, and at least one or two of the churches are borderline hostile toward the whole idea of any kind of security. I have basically given up, and now just focus on our own facilities, and team. Suggestions?
You are doing everything right. If people don’t want to participate, we can’t make them. It is tough to get people to get involved. Keep up what you are doing. Don’t be discouraged.
We have newly retired LEOs that have cultivated relationships with the local department and we see them patrol through the parking lot often. We also have military (current and retired), ATF, and local Fire personnel in the safety ministry who are a wealth of knowledge and input. We are very fortunate to have a good variety of input in this ministry. I’ve been part of it for 8 years now and when it started we didn’t have these resources but have been blessed with them over the last 3 or 4 years.
The Safety Ministry at your church sounds amazing! ;)
Keith, will this document be made available to us here anytime soon? I am assuming it's public record now that they're convicted.
In a jurisdiction with a George Soros prosecutor, a Democrat mayor, city council, and police chief, they would just laugh at a trespass order, would they not?
I would imagine that the threat to a Boise police officer's children got them moving.
Excellent response. Don't relax too much just yet.