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Vincent Oliver's avatar

Question: I have my CA Armed Guard Card , can I perform Armed Security at my church or do I have to be associated with a PPO first?

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Gary Scianna's avatar

I’m from California and currently serve as an un-armed security volunteer at my Church. We do have some armed, off-duty LEO and retired LEO volunteers but not nearly enough of them. Some of us un-armed volunteers would like to be able to CC while volunteering,. The trouble is our Church operates an accredited K-12 Christian school as a ministry on site during the week. My question is this: can the Church (as owner of the entire property) limit, in writing, the hours and days the school is allowed to use the Church’s property for school purposes? Under such a lease or other written agreement, (I would think) the school would not exist on the hours and days not included in their agreement. So, during a typical school day, the entire church property could be viewed as “school property”. On the other hand, restricted days (per the lease or agreement with the school) the Church would have sole use of the entire campus as the school has no right to operate as a school on those days and hours per the written agreement. Thus on those other days and hours the Church’s property would simply be a Church, and not a school for the purposes of private concealed carrying of a handgun.

This seems very cut-and-dry to me, what am I missing.

Also, as being from San Jose, California, I have not even tried to apply for a California CCL. I know two individuals who have completed and now have their Cal CCLs. One took 18 months, the other took 2 years to get. Currently, each license is good for 2 years and costs in the neighborhood of $1,750. Crazy. I’ve carried CCLs from Utah, Oregon, and Nevada for over 13 years and carry whenever and wherever I travel out of this State. So, my second question is this: I’m not familiar with Federal or California laws requiring a local CCL to carry in a Church. Could you elaborate for me where in the law that requirement can be found? I just assumed a private “Church” was private property like a residence or business. Thanks for your feedback.

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